On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 03:39:56PM -0600, jd1008 wrote: I did indeed see the option that says I will configure partitioning. This site requires JavaScript to be enabled to function correctly, please enable it. Multiple groups may not have the same name. Install minimal system. Not for me!! On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 15:30:43 -0600 jd1008 wrote: yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop" Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, fs-snapshot, refresh-packagekit, security Setting up Group Process Repository testing-1.1-devtools-6 is listed more than once in the configuration Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * base: mirrors.xmission.com * epel: mirror.sfo12.us.leaseweb.net * extras: mirror.hostduplex.com * rpmfusion-free-updates: mirror.nexcess.net * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: mirror.nexcess.net * updates: mirrors.usc.edu base/group_gz | 216 kB 00:00, Since the MATE Desktop group does exist in epel (I just checked and it hasn't gone away), you have other issues that you should probably be solving. I've already talked about this in my Kubuntu review, but here's a recap. I am trying to install Mate Desktop environment using the command as root Code: yum -y groupinstall "MATE Desktop&quo ... mirrors.viethosting.com Warning: group MATE Desktop does not exist. > Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit Active 2 years, 4 months ago. They work (i.e. Security is only good if it does not impede functionality. -- Jonathan Billings. In other words, you don't need MATE with Centos 6. Network access: Do not allow storage of passwords and credentials for network authentication To resolve this issue, simply Set this policy to Disabled: The new version of Task Scheduler (Windows Vista onwards) uses Windows Credential Manager to store the credentials of … I have an Ubuntu virtual machine to which I need to do remote desktop. On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 19:26 -0600, jd1008 wrote: Here's the whole output: # yum groupinstall mate Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, fs-snapshot, refresh-packagekit, security Setting up Group Process Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * base: mirrors.xmission.com * epel: mirrors.kernel.org * extras: mirror.hmc.edu * rpmfusion-free-updates: mirror.nexcess.net * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: mirror.nexcess.net * updates: mirror.hmc.edu Warning: Group mate does not exist. No packages in any requested group available to install or update Warning: Group mate does not exist. Then I did yum groupinstall Desktop which worked. 2. Install applications as needed. > Warning: Environment Group cinnamon-desktop-environment does not exist. England, EU. MATE is under active development to add support for new technologies while preserving a traditional desktop experience. OK, so I am indeed at 6.6 : # cat /etc/centos-release CentOS release 6.6 (Final) But I would still like to get up to 7, but as I indicated in another post, I cannot use the 7's iso because it crashes immediately during boot. If you do, the language-specific changes in the update or hotfix will not be applied, and you will have to reinstall the update or hotfix. It provides an intuitive and attractive desktop environment using traditional metaphors for Linux and other Unix-like operating systems. Cinnamon - Same as Mate, but officially endorsed by Linux Mint 得对应的组名再安装. > Some of the desktop environments are: LXQt - A Qt based desktop, result from the merge of the LXDE and Razor-Qt interfaces merge. The application tries to open a static virtual channel by using a channel name that does not exist. The headline changes in MATE Desktop 1.20 are: MATE Desktop 1.20 supports HiDPI displays with dynamic detection and scaling. Maybe run: yum groups mark install (see man yum) Error: No packages in any requested group available to install or update [root@ns1 ~]# yum groupinstall “Xfce4” -y Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks, universal-hooks Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile This morning, the package group "X Window System" seems to have disappeared. Method 1: Windows Update This update is available from Windows Update. Maybe run: yum groups mark convert (see man yum) Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * base: centos.excellmedia.net * epel: mirror01.idc.hinet.net * extras: centos.excellmedia.net * updates: centos.excellmedia.net Available Environment Groups: Minimal Install (minimal) Compute Node (compute-node-environment) … Add the "contrib" component to /etc/apt/sources.list, for example: # Debian 8 "Jessie"deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debia… See the Roadmap. On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 18:25:00 -0600 jd1008 wrote: Warning: Group MATE Desktop does not exist. On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 18:49 -0600, jd1008 wrote: I did. Good to hear! > Warning: Environment Group kde-desktop-environment does not exist. The group '' was not found at the destination. The Installer in CentOS7 is confusing, particularly the partitioning section, but it *does* let you do manual partitioning. Warning: Environment Group cinnamon-desktop-environment does not exist… So, why is centos 7 crapping out? (6 replies) Hi, Until last week, I could install a CentOS 7 based desktop using the following approach: 1. I do not have physical access to that machine and I can do only ssh to the machine. Also, it does not provide for the option to upgrade. The base desktop consist… means that you somehow passed -P pom.xml to Maven which means "there is a profile called pom.xml; find it and activate it". -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com. On 06/13/2015 07:49 AM, johan.vermeulen7 wrote: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Installation_Guide/chap-anaconda-boot-options.html, https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Installation_Guide/images/diskpartsetup/disk-setup-x86.png, https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Installation_Guide/sect-disk-partitioning-setup-x86.html, http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos, [CentOS] Ndiswrapper for Realtek 8180L on CentOS 5.0, [CentOS] Not installing avahi in a kickstart install. Problem with bringing up X. yum install epel-release yum groupinstall "X Window System" yum groupinstall mate Thats what I use on C7 Greetings _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS at centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos, epel-release is already installed. > yum group mark remove , https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Fedora19. I used xrdp and I installed the necessary packages in the ubuntu machine (xrdp and dependent). For more information, see Add language packs to Windows. 6.4 is from 2013... -- john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cruz. Warning: Group GNOME Desktop Environment does not exist. XFCE - A Gnome'ish looking desktop focused on stability; Mate - A "Gnome 2 Fork", that tries to be as simple as Gnome 2 was. In fact the banner does not even say Install or Upgrade. VirtualBox 4.3.18 is packaged for Debian 8 "Jessie". The other desktop environments can be found in the FreeBSD ports collection. 卸载GNOME桌面环境 #yum groupremove "GNOME Desktop Environment" 卸载KDE桌面环境 #yum groupremove "KDE (K Desktop Environment)" 登录系统,使用yum å®‰è£ -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com. Problem with bringing up X. England, EU. You run an application that uses Windows Terminal Server virtual channel APIs (such as the WtsVirtualChannelOpen and WtsVirtualChannelClose APIs) to create and use virtual channels in a Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) session. > # yum update Also, it does not provide for the option to upgrade. MATE is available for Centos 7. If you see this display: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Installation_Guide/images/diskpartsetup/disk-setup-x86.png (From: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Installation_Guide/sect-disk-partitioning-setup-x86.html ) You need to pick 'I will configure partitioning'. > No packages marked for update, > Apparently, this clean clear these things up: [root@centos7 ~]# yum group list | grep -i mate [root@centos7 ~]# yum group list hidden | grep -i mate MATE Expected results: yum group "MATE Desktop" should exist and be visible OR, if it's intentional to rename it to just "MATE" (which I can see makes sense as it no longer needs the group name to be quoted in commands) then it should not … To wit: # yum update Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, fs-snapshot, refresh-packagekit, security Setting up Update Process Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * base: mirrors.xmission.com * epel: mirrors.tummy.com * extras: mirror.hmc.edu * rpmfusion-free-updates: mirror.web-ster.com * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: mirror.web-ster.com * updates: mirrors.usc.edu No Packages marked for Update. As I understand it, these package groups are merely XML files that yum reads for deploying the packages. However, it does not let me do manual partitioning. For an equivalent experience with Centos 6, install the Gnome Desktop. Even after 'yum clean all' I see these warnings: # yum update Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit Warning: Environment Group mate-desktop-environment does not exist. Installing just the mate-extra group will not pull in the whole mategroup via dependencies. Sadly, the whole area has been so Poetteringed with a twisty maze of scripts that I have yet to figure out how to make it remember Mate whilst still allowing me to occasionally switch to Gnome3 should I wish (mainly so I can remind myself how disgustingly bad Gnome3 is). Toggling HiDPI modes triggers dynamic resize and scale, no … No packages in any requested group available to install or update. The mategroup contains the core desktop environment required for the standard MATE experience. [CentOS] CentOS 5.5 : Installing Sources where they are visible to system(VBOX driver install), [CentOS] Problem when opening files after installing OpenOffice 3.1 on CentOS 5.4. As I also stated in another post, centos 6.4 had no problems with my old graphics card. All {key,value} pairs following a group header until a new group header belong to the group.. Security zealots are doing their best to make computer usage hard if not impossible. On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 18:25:00 -0600 jd1008 wrote: I am running Centos 6.4 Could that be the issue? On 06/12/2015 03:42 PM, johan.vermeulen7 wrote: jd1008 schreef: OK, so I am indeed at 6.6 : # cat /etc/centos-release CentOS release 6.6 (Final) But I would still like to get up to 7, but as I indicated in another post, I cannot use the 7's iso because it crashes immediately during boot. If that says 6.4, and yum update doesn't update to the latest CentOS 6.6, something *is* broken on your system. No. Warning: Environment Group kde-desktop-environment does not exist. On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 09:00:52PM -0600, jd1008 wrote: Thanx! updates: centos.mirror.constant.com Warning: group X Windows System does not exist. CentOS 7 - Warning: group chinese-support does not exist. Warning: Group MATE Desktop does not exist. But when I return back to the screen (where it has all the icons that let you select the initial things, like date, time ...etc, it says about destination: automatically.... On 06/14/2015 08:12 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: try:- cat /etc/centos-release Is it still C 6.4 ? I wanted to do remote desktop and came up with lot of options (vnc, xrdp, opennx). Ask Question Asked 6 years, 8 months ago. 1. > Warning: Environment Group gnome-desktop-environment does not exist. mate-desktop.org has no packages for rhel or centos. On 06/12/2015 07:22 PM, Always Learning wrote: what does... $ cat /etc/redhat-release say? England's place is in the European Union. Maybe run: yum groups mark convert (see man yum) Warning: Group system-admin-tools does not have any packages to install. MATE is available in the official repositories and can be installedwith one of the following: 1. 1. The output of “yum -v grouplist” does not show whether “environment groups” a... > Even after 'yum clean all' I see these warnings: That's the issue. KDE is another user-friendly environment focused on standardization of menus, toolbars, and color-schemes. The basic format of the desktop entry file requires that there be a group header named Desktop Entry. On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 18:49:53 -0600 jd1008 wrote: I'm using C 6.6 Try: yum update -- Regards, Paul. Who thought this crap out. > > Warning: Environment Group mate-desktop-environment does not exist. The virtualbox-* packages were moved to contribat VirtualBox 4.2, as a non-free compiler (Open Watcom) is required to build the BIOS. GNOME offers a user-based desktop environment, which a beginner-friendly desktop environments. 2. yum groupinstall "X Window System" 3. yum install gdm gnome-classic-session gnome-terminal liberation-fonts 4. If you want to install all MATE packages then you will need to explicitly install both groups. On 06/12/2015 08:42 PM, John R Pierce wrote: There are a couple other options from this page you should try, when installing CentOS7: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Installation_Guide/chap-anaconda-boot-options.html inst.xdriver=fbdev or inst.usefbx This will use the Framebuffer driver instead of whatever driver the installer is trying to load that then crashes. jd1008 --- Re: [CentOS] Installing all the mate desktop rpms ---, yum install epel-release yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop" -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com. hello, I haven't followed the complete conversation, sorry. The permissions for '' were not copied because '' does not exist at the destination. it does not crash. As I also stated in another post, centos 6.4 had no problems with my old graphics card. Loaded plugins: fastestmirror There is no installed groups file. However, it does not let me do manual partitioning. Anyway, not sure if all that is true or not, but I've gotta get a desktop environment on these things for my developers. [CentOS] CentOS6: installing 32bit and 64bit RPMS via the installer? Warning: Environment Group gnome-desktop-environment does not exist. The only reason I can think of is that your. Sadly, if you leave gnome3 (or KDE) installed then whilst it sometimes remembers Mate over a reboot, often it does not. The problem here seems to be that the UUID is either wrong, or /dev/disk/by-UUID... does not exist. The MATE Desktop Environment is the continuation of GNOME 2. The selection group filter was reset to all users. So, why is centos 7 crapping out? No packages in any requested group available to install or update, jd1008 --- Re: [CentOS] Installing all the mate desktop rpms --- From:"jd1008" To:"" Date:Fri, Jun 12, 2015 7:25 PMSubject:Re: [CentOS] Installing all the mate desktop rpms On 06/12/2015 03:39 PM, Frank Cox wrote: > yum install epel-release > yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop" yum groupinstall "MATE Desktop" Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, fs-snapshot, refresh-packagekit, security Setting up Group Process Repository testing-1.1-devtools-6 is listed more than once in the configuration Loading mirror, jd1008 schreef: Mate is not in the repos. No packages in any requested group available to install or update. It just says install and the only partitioning scheme it allows is the automatic one. Restrictions that possibly make sense in the corporate world are copied blindly into the home environment (SELinux, Samba, etc), and you end up with unusable systems. That absolutely sucks and blows at the same time. Says nothing marked for update. When I try to open any program such as 1) Device manager 2) Install/uninstall any program 3) Manage Computer 4) delete a printer etc., The group's owner '' cannot be found at … You could also use VNC, although apparently that's abhorrent. O serviço gratuito do Google traduz instantaneamente palavras, frases e páginas da Web entre o inglês e mais de 100 outros idiomas. Which defeats the purpose of these security mechanisms. England's place is in the European Union. The specified service does not exist as an installed service Recently I seem to have problem with every thing in my laptop running windows vistas. No packages in any requested group available to install or update $ sudo yum groups install "Development tools" Loaded plugins: langpacks, product-id, subscription-manager Warning: Group development does not have any packages to install. The warning message [WARNING] The requested profile "pom.xml" could not be activated because it does not exist. On 06/13/2015 07:51 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: I tried the the two boot options. Ask Question Asked 4 years, 5 months ago. I installed a CentOS 7 in my VMware workstation, but this os doesn't support Chinese. How can I install it It's in epel repository. Will try the boot options to see which one will work. Adding the parameter all_generic_ide to the end of the boot-line like kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic root=UUID=43206294-74ef-434d-aca2-db74b4257590 ro quiet splash all_generic_ide seems to work for some people The output of “yum -v grouplist” does not show whether “environment groups” are installed or not. The mate-extra group contains additional utilities and applications that integrate well with the MATE desktop. Warning: Group x11 does not have any packages. -- Regards, Paul. Important Do not install a language pack after you install this update or hotfix. Since the MATE Desktop group does exist in epel (I just checked and it hasn't gone away), you have other issues that you should probably be … Three years ago, you could connect to Samba shares anonymously, n… A group header with name groupname is a line in the format: [groupname] Group names may contain all ASCII characters except for [and ] and control characters. HiDPI hints for Qt applications are also pushed to the environment to improve cross toolkit integration. Maybe run: yum groups mark install (see man yum) No packages in any requested group available to install or update yum group install "kde-desktop" fails with "No packages in any requested group available to install or update" message. Warning: Group development does not have any packages to install. 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